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    NewQuestions



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    PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:20 pm    Post subject: Could I get your opinion about my new website? Reply with quote

    Hello,
    My name is Jonathan Regan Smile

    I'm not sure if this post is in violation of the forum's policy, but I though I
    would try anyway. Basically, I would like your genuine opinion about a new
    product that I have created for sale through ClickBank.

    Like many of you, I have swallowed hundreds of dollars worth of ebooks
    and have purchased thousands of dollars worth of software. I have tried
    to apply as much to my new website as possible. The site is here:

    http://www.ActingEbook.com

    So, let me try and get to the point of this post. Basically, I would like to
    hear from newbies and veterans alike. Once you have a website that is
    ready to go, what do you do next? Is it really as simple as whacking the
    new website into Google Adwords and hoping for the best, or would you
    recommend laying down JV ground work first?

    I realise that these sort of general questions are the sort of topics that
    $97 ebooks are made from, so how about we limit it to quick responses
    that have worked for you.

    Has anyone with a brand new product, done anything irregular to kick
    start their profit - or can anyone recommend an almost sure-fire
    strategy to get a brand new product off the ground?

    I hope this post, and the subsequent answers can help people in the
    future, who are looking for mechanisms to sell their new product.

    Thanks for your time, and simply remove this post if it offends/spams.

    Cheers,
    Jonathan
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    MilesBaker



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    PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Looks good, I would get rid of the adsense at the top. Are you trying to sell your ebook or make money with adsense? It's confusing and throws off your readers focus having the adsense on the page.
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    NewQuestions



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    PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Thanks for the reply ... I just removed Adsense at the top of the page Smile

    I just sent an email to a newsletter owner, who is going to post an advert
    to his list of aspiring actors. Wish me luck.

    Does anyone have any advice on how to dramatically launch a brand new
    product - other than targeted ezine advertisements. I am really keen to
    learn of interesting ways to explode a product onto the scene ...
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    WebFusion



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    PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Very attractive site - loos like good sales copy, and a unique niche.

    If however, you plan on using affiliates to promote your product, you need to lose the adsense ads (and any other "sale leaks") from your landing page. The page affiliates send traffic to via hoplinks need to be free of traffic/sales leaks completely.

    In fact, I would go further and say that if your goal is to sell your prodcut, there is simply no reason to have ads pulling your potential customers away from your sales page. Adsense ads belong on content-only pages, NOT a sales page. A sales page should have one and only one purpose- converting visitors into buyers. Placing ads on that page btoh defeats that purpose, AND tells the potential customer that you have such little faith in your own product that you need to support it with advertising.
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    mudnik



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    PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Could I get your opinion about my new website? Reply with quote

    NewQuestions wrote:
    Hello,
    My name is Jonathan Regan Smile

    So, let me try and get to the point of this post. Basically, I would like to
    hear from newbies and veterans alike. Once you have a website that is
    ready to go, what do you do next? Is it really as simple as whacking the
    new website into Google Adwords and hoping for the best, or would you
    recommend laying down JV ground work first?

    Cheers,
    Jonathan


    Definitely adwords first. Test and make sure your site converts at a decent rate before you approach people for JV. You can give them the statistics, that will help them decide whether to promote your product.
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    NewQuestions



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    PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Ok - great advice. I shall begin a checklist, and then update it as we go.

    1. Streamline sales page. Look for errors. Minimise distractions.
    2. Setup Google Adwords campaigns. Test. Test. Test. Rejoice!
    3. Conversion rates can be "bragged" to potential JV partners.

    Ok, now what?
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    WebFusion



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    PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    For the time being - that's it. I would continue testing via Adwords until your conversion rate is at least 1% or better (again - having ads on your sales page will negatively affect your conversion rate - not too mention getting any JV partners to send traffic to a page with commission leaks).

    Once you've got solid sales numbers, you can open it up for affiliates -and move on to the next product Wink
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    cad001



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    PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Very good sales letter. May i ask if you wrote it yourself or hired someone else?
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    NewQuestions



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    PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Actually, I wrote the sales letter myself. I also designed all the graphics
    and built a custom back-end ebook delivery system. I must admit, I had
    already done some work on a different website (also mine)
    http://www.StartpageSecrets.com

    I must admit - that my Startpage Secrets ebook was not a success (to
    my understanding), and that is why I really want to launch my father's
    ebook correctly this time. I would love to do him proud Smile

    Cheers,
    Jonathan
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    drreena



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    PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Hello:

    Very nice site - soothing and inspires confidence. The colors and layout makes it easier for readers to stick around long enough to read your sales letter.

    A couple of other comments:

    1. You have a typo in your title - it should read "Introducing" - not "Intoducing".

    2. A couple of your sub-headings, look a bit off balance - there is a line break with only one word in the second line. I think it would look more even if you could break the header earlier.

    Good luck.
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    airfreddie



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    PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:18 am    Post subject: about adsence. Thinking outside the box Reply with quote

    Hello all I am new here. I have a post above about epilot.

    I am thinking outside the box here. Everyone is saying to remove adsence adds at the top.Yes the page is a sales page but on the other hand, so you want to make money with the site.

    example. I have a website for my old flight school that I kept up and decided to play around with. I changed the company name and the phone numbers to the company that bought my old business but told them I would keep the site up and give them free advertizing. I experimented with adds and looked into the google adsence program. This is the only thing I have done right so far. I have quadrupled my advertising $ with adwards using the right PPC search engines. " the cheap ones"

    With the adds up the company that now owns it told me they were getting 2-3 phone calls per day from the wesite at the same time I am getting a 13% clickthru rate on visitors.

    so just using statistics here.
    1: if you have 1% of the visitors buying and are interested in what you have .
    2: you have maybe another 2% signing up for a newsletter.
    3: you have 97% of the visitors leaving never to be seen again.

    Why not make money on the people that are going to leave anyhow? If they don't like your headline ...... they are gone no matter what the rest of your site has to offer. If you have a great headline then they are going to read on, then if they don't like what you have to offer they scroll back up the page and click on the add. if they are in that 1%, they buy. you still have the1% sales rate you can count on from a good product plus a little extra.

    I just look at it like you can't be all things to all people no matter who you are or what you are selling. if you can't be something for someone why not get paid to send them to someone who is? Like I said if you have what they are looking for, they will scroll down the page. If you make the adds look like a true part of your site....... why not?



    site looks good I am working on my own ebooks also so you guys can chew me up when I get it done.

    anyone want to buy an airplane? have one for sale not on clickbank though.

    airfreddie
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    PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:34 pm    Post subject: Re: about adsence. Thinking outside the box Reply with quote

    airfreddie wrote:
    Hello all I am new here. I have a post above about epilot.

    I am thinking outside the box here. Everyone is saying to remove adsence adds at the top.Yes the page is a sales page but on the other hand, so you want to make money with the site.


    airfreddie


    The problem with ads is that you might put off potential affiliates. You could also try something like Searchfeast to gain revenue on exiting traffic.
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    PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Quote:
    Why not make money on the people that are going to leave anyhow? If they don't like your headline ...... they are gone no matter what the rest of your site has to offer. If you have a great headline then they are going to read on, then if they don't like what you have to offer they scroll back up the page and click on the add. if they are in that 1%, they buy. you still have the1% sales rate you can count on from a good product plus a little extra.


    That's fine. However, if you're selling a product/service and using affiliates to promote it, then having any kind of traffic/sales leak on a page that is SUPPOSED to be dedicated to selling is tantamount to stealing from those same affiliates.

    Many affiliates spend a considerable amount of $$ buying traffic to send to CB merchants. How would you feel if you paid $$ for every visitor you send to a merchant only to find that merchant is siphoning off your traffic through adsense ads?

    Again...adsense ads are fine, but they have no place on a page that is supposed to be dedicated to selling. If you want to make adsense income, put it on pages that support your sales page, i.e. articles, etc. If you're having a hard time maintining profitablility from your sales page, then it's the page and/or product that needs work...adding advertising to the page WILL NOT increase your conversion rate. In fact, if you want to attract affiliates that REALLY produce (i.e. super-affiliates), then you had better not have any kind of traffic leak on your sales page.
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    PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Nice posts guys Smile

    Well, I am kind of comprimising. I have removed the Adsense ads from the
    top of the sales page, although I intend to keep the ones at the end. My
    reasoning goes along these lines ...

    Basically, if someone managed to read my page - or even skim down the
    page, taking in 10% of what I have to say, then they probably know what
    they're getting themselves in for. But, if they decide from the outset, that
    the price is not right, then at least their journey can continue by clicking
    on a related Adsense advertisement.

    I really don't think that someone who is genuninely interested in this ebook
    is likely to get distracted by clicking and visiting a site advertised through
    Adsense. Now, I can only say this for *my Dad's website* because most
    of the Adsense advertisements that appear are not in direct competition.

    For instance, no one has an ebook specifically about "learning how to
    become an actor" within Adsense now. But, there are some really valid
    points that have been made here.

    Most important - don't put Adsense on sales pages, unless the adverts
    are *NOT* in direct competition with your product.

    ***** REQUEST ******

    Ok, here is a request. If you DO use Adsense on sales pages, and they
    do generate a decent income, can we hear from you? The reason I am
    asking is because 10 clicks on an Adsense advertisement could basically
    buy 10 visitors through Adwords. That makes sense right?
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    PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    ...then I gues my next question is, do you expect affiliates to promote your product? If so good luck finding any performing affiliates (i.e. ones that actually make m ore than 1 or 2 sales per month) to promote it.

    I have 32 products listed with CB, and I can tell you from years of experience....good affiliates won;t put up with it. Which means you're sacrificing a potential huge, profit generating sales force for what will (probably) amount to less than $10 a say in adsense income.
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    PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    I used to do the same mistake…I was looking for immediate profits..instead of thinking on long term.

    You are going to make some money right now with adsense but how much it will cost if you if big affiliates will decide not to promote your website because you have adsense?

    You will probably never know how many sales you have lost.

    I have been a clickbank affiliate for over 2 years and I never promoted a vendor with adsense on sale page.
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    PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    To tell you the truth, I had never even considered the affiliates point of
    view. I suppose it is just too early in the development process for me
    to think that way - but I understand and accept your point.

    As soon as the affiliate program is ready, I shall remove all Adsense
    advertisements. It is a sound theory. Affiliates deserve better ...

    Great advice!
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    PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 9:13 pm    Post subject: Adsense Fallacy Reply with quote

    Dear Friends,

    Yes, I am agree with Cad001. If anysite is using Adsense, to me it looks a little bit free site or site which owner do not want to get into real website business.

    Just see the different. For adsense on average the earning per 100 click comes to $30 to $40. While some of programs on www.cj.com given earning per 100 click close to $800 to $1000 or more( maximum in some cases)

    So what would you prefer.
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    PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Welcome to the forum Reagan. Any realtion to the ex president?

    Anyway, the site looks good. But I would make the headline uch larger. Maybe size 16 or somthing.
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