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    At what point is the affiliate clickthrough "safe?"

     
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    justlearnin



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    PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 6:25 pm    Post subject: At what point is the affiliate clickthrough "safe?" Reply with quote

    Morning ...

    If person A clicks on a legitimate affiliate hoplink that goes to the product sales page, the affiliate nick appears in the URL Address bar ... is the affiliate credit/potential sale "safe" at this point from theft, even if person A replaces the visible nick with their own nick at this point in an attempt to steal the commission? Or do they have to go to the NEXT step, of clicking on the product sales page/ordering link that carries you to the CB order screen before the commission is "safe?"

    Just trying to be clear .....
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    Adrian Ling
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    PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Hi,

    See -- http://www.clickbanksuccessforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=81
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    Here is another thing to think about. I don't know if you use the
    standard Clickbank sales link on your page or not, but if you are
    your nickname is clearly visible in this link. If someone is familiar
    with Clickbank, it won't matter if you are showing an affiliate link on
    your site. They can get your nickname from the saleslink and still
    use their hoplink to get credit for the sale. This is why I recommend
    all merchants to cloak the sales link, but hardly any of them do.

    Wayne


    Basically, if the merchant does not display his/her nickname, then it
    would be very difficult for someone to steal the commission from
    the legitimate affiliate.

    Knowing the affiliate's nickname does not matter.


    Warm regards,
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    justlearnin



    Joined: 25 Apr 2004
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    PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    I do understand about cloaking hoplinks, and that is a good tip about cloaking the sales link ... I guess I am wondering that if someone clicks on a legit cloaked link, is the Clickbank cookie instantly set at that point, so that even if they DO try to chop off the affiliate nick in the browser address bar and insert thier own, that if they continue to follow the "chain" of legit links, it wont matter? There is nothing they can do at that point (OTHER than trying to nab the vendor nick and bailing out to create their own illegitimate hoplink) that would interrupt credit to the proper original affiliate?

    Also, if a hoplink or sales link is cloaked and bounced through a cgi redirect script, that doesnt negatively affect the chain of the affiliate credit in any way, does it?

    Thanks ...
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    justlearnin



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    PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    I do understand about cloaking hoplinks, and that is a good tip about cloaking the sales link ... I guess I am wondering that if someone clicks on a legit cloaked link, is the Clickbank cookie instantly set at that point, so that even if they DO try to chop off the affiliate nick in the browser address bar and insert thier own, that if they continue to follow the "chain" of legit links, it wont matter? There is nothing they can do at that point (OTHER than trying to nab the vendor nick and bailing out to create their own illegitimate hoplink) that would interrupt credit to the proper original affiliate?

    Also, if a hoplink or sales link is cloaked and bounced through a cgi redirect script, that doesnt negatively affect the chain of the affiliate credit in any way, does it?

    Thanks ...
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    No Way



    Joined: 15 Apr 2004
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    PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:21 pm    Post subject: ClickBank FAQs Reply with quote

    Heres a link straight from the horses mouth that you may find interesting:
    http://clickbank.com/hoplinks/hoplinkFAQ.html
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    Adrian Ling
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    PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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    Will I get referral credit if I hide hoplinks by making them open into a frame, iframe, layer, applet, image, or other sub-window object?

    No. These are illegal hoplinks. For security reasons, and to ensure proper tracking of your referrals, all hoplinks must be targeted to the top level of a new or existing window.


    That's the info from the link given by "No Way"

    As long as your redirect script does not 'frame' the hoplink in any
    way, you'll be fine.

    But just to doubly sure, clear all your cookies, click on your
    cloaked/redirect link and then click all the way to Clickbank's payment
    page (where you enter your cc details). If your nickname appears at
    the bottom of the page (i.e. [affiliate = yournickname], then you know
    it's ok.


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    wayne



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    PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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    Will I get referral credit if I hide hoplinks by making them open into a frame, iframe, layer, applet, image, or other sub-window object?

    No. These are illegal hoplinks. For security reasons, and to ensure proper tracking of your referrals, all hoplinks must be targeted to the top level of a new or existing window.


    What about the software programs out that create cookies in invisible
    ways, it seems like the rule above would make these programs
    illegal.
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