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    asokas



    Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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    PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 11:32 am    Post subject: Hoplink Cloaking?.... Reply with quote

    Hello,

    Am I right in believing that the present Clickbank hoplinks cannot be cloaked with programs like Affiliate Defender, Affiliate Masker etc.? Or can they be, and still work fine?
    regards,

    Asoka Selvarajah
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    WayneB



    Joined: 21 Oct 2004
    Posts: 960

    PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    There are some link masking programs that use javascript and ActiveX
    to automatically create a Clickbank cookie on the visitors computer
    without the visitor even having to go to the vendors site. I asked
    Clickbank about this, and they said this is definitely against their
    guidelines, and they would be investigating this. All hoplinks are to be
    targetted to a top window, which means when you use a hoplink the
    vendors site must be visible to the visitor. You cannot target hoplinks
    to an invisible image. If your visitor is taken to the vendors website
    with the cloaking program you are using, then you should be fine.
    However, if you send the visitor to a page on your site and set the cookie
    from your site before the visitor even sees the vendor site, then this is
    not allowed with Clickbank. I don't know if Clickbank has taken any
    action on this yet.
    I don't know about the two specific programs you asked about, I haven't
    checked them out to see how they work.
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    WayneB



    Joined: 21 Oct 2004
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    PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    I could be wrong, but I believe Affiliate Defender and Affiliate Masker
    open the link in frames, and do not use the method I described above.
    This will still work, however Clickbank will break the site out of the
    frames and so your affiliate id would still show in the address bar once
    the visitor reaches the vendors site. However, I don't really see a problem
    with your id showing in the address bar if you cloak your hoplink, once
    the visitor reaches the vendors site, your cookie will already be created.
    And if someone is familiar with Clickbank and are determined to get
    the credit themselves, once they see the sales link or the order form
    they will know it is a Clickbank product and will find a way to get the
    credit if they really want it. All they need is the merchant's id, they do
    not need your id. If Clickbank didn't break the site out of frames, there
    is a good chance your cookie wouldn't be created and you wouldn't
    get credit for the sale.
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    asokas



    Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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    PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Hello,

    Thank you very much. It sounds like I was just about to make a big mistake. Rather than preserve my affiliate commission, it sounds like I was just about to terminate it.

    Asoka
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    kigo



    Joined: 16 Apr 2004
    Posts: 44

    PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

    i just use simple redirection which seems to work okay.
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    fredfarnesworth



    Joined: 10 Sep 2004
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    PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 3:49 pm    Post subject: Redirect Reply with quote

    Here is a redirect that works for me:
    http://www.traderzine.com/articles/041105.html

    Click on the link half-way down the page, which says "Click for details".

    I hacked/cluged it in perl, if anyone wants the code.

    -Fred.
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    WayneB



    Joined: 21 Oct 2004
    Posts: 960

    PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    OK, so you want to know how to cloak your links. This seems to be the
    popular thing nowadays. You can use the embed command to embed
    another webpage within your webpage, and guess what, you can set
    the width and height to 1 so your visitor won't even see this extra page. You
    can open a hoplink within your own page completely visible to the
    visitor, thereby setting the cookie without the visitor even going to the
    vendors site, and then you can link to whatever page you wish. But keep
    in mind, this is against Clickbank's terms. All hoplinks are to be
    targetted to a top window.
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